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	<title>Comments on: 12 Incredible Coffee Maker Designs</title>
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		<title>By: haiironezumi</title>
		<link>http://incrediblethings.com/lists/incredible-coffee-maker-designs/comment-page-1/#comment-922</link>
		<dc:creator>haiironezumi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 04:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are several machines missing from this list, along with many more entries with erroneous information.

On the missing side, how about Kees van der Westen&#039;s Speedster? http://www.keesvanderwesten.com/speedster.html

Built around the shell of a La Marzocco GS3 it is one of the most desirable single group coffee makers around.

There are many more iconic machines such as the Atomic, one of the first viable home espresso makers, or the La Pavoni line of piston/lever espresso machines, where the pressure is supplied by the user.

As for the errors, the statement the Nespresso pods are fresh is anything but true.  By nature coffee is a fresh product which degrades over time.  The rull of thumb is that fresh roasted coffee beans last 3 weeks and ground coffee lasts 3 minutes.

The Nespresso, by design, seals ground coffee in foil to give the appearance of freshness.  But there is still some oxygen inside, meaning the ground coffee can react to it and go stale.  This is not even taking into account the time between the mass grinding of the beans and the packaging on the production line.

The IMO (which is only in the concept phase) hardly compares to the mypressi TWIST ( www.mypressi.com )for compact design.

As for the Roaster Grinder Brewer, while a novel concept, if the coffee is used immediately after roasting, rather than waiting the usual one week, the resulting beverage will be underwhelming at best, and bitter or acidic at worse.

Lastly there&#039;s the Miele.  No automatic espresso machine will make coffee as well as a manual machine.  They cannot grind the coffee fine enough without clogging, so the result is underextracted espresso.  Add to this the fact that the beans are being heated all the time, causing them to lose their flavour as the oils seep out and the resulting coffee is bland at best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are several machines missing from this list, along with many more entries with erroneous information.</p>
<p>On the missing side, how about Kees van der Westen&#8217;s Speedster? <a href="http://www.keesvanderwesten.com/speedster.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.keesvanderwesten.com/speedster.html</a></p>
<p>Built around the shell of a La Marzocco GS3 it is one of the most desirable single group coffee makers around.</p>
<p>There are many more iconic machines such as the Atomic, one of the first viable home espresso makers, or the La Pavoni line of piston/lever espresso machines, where the pressure is supplied by the user.</p>
<p>As for the errors, the statement the Nespresso pods are fresh is anything but true.  By nature coffee is a fresh product which degrades over time.  The rull of thumb is that fresh roasted coffee beans last 3 weeks and ground coffee lasts 3 minutes.</p>
<p>The Nespresso, by design, seals ground coffee in foil to give the appearance of freshness.  But there is still some oxygen inside, meaning the ground coffee can react to it and go stale.  This is not even taking into account the time between the mass grinding of the beans and the packaging on the production line.</p>
<p>The IMO (which is only in the concept phase) hardly compares to the mypressi TWIST ( <a href="http://www.mypressi.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.mypressi.com</a> )for compact design.</p>
<p>As for the Roaster Grinder Brewer, while a novel concept, if the coffee is used immediately after roasting, rather than waiting the usual one week, the resulting beverage will be underwhelming at best, and bitter or acidic at worse.</p>
<p>Lastly there&#8217;s the Miele.  No automatic espresso machine will make coffee as well as a manual machine.  They cannot grind the coffee fine enough without clogging, so the result is underextracted espresso.  Add to this the fact that the beans are being heated all the time, causing them to lose their flavour as the oils seep out and the resulting coffee is bland at best.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://incrediblethings.com/lists/incredible-coffee-maker-designs/comment-page-1/#comment-606</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 01:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The clover machine?

http://www.slate.com/id/2185655/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The clover machine?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.slate.com/id/2185655/" rel="nofollow">http://www.slate.com/id/2185655/</a></p>
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		<title>By: ID</title>
		<link>http://incrediblethings.com/lists/incredible-coffee-maker-designs/comment-page-1/#comment-497</link>
		<dc:creator>ID</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Sep 2009 07:05:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are missing the Atomic</description>
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